Dominic has this right. The choice is personal and everyone should be able to make it. If you are an alchie, deal with it and if you want to moderate your drinking or vary it, fine.
Another thought: Seeing the Scandinavian social system from the inside, it is now a race about who gets the tax revenue - If you call on the “social safety net” 2025 then you’re stealing salaries from public employment - a blob that can’t be decreased in size but is constant growing …and you must be shamed. Thus as everyone drinks “The System” can now shame anyone - as they did with the smokers.
Drinking: With the outlook to not drinking and driving - because Dave can’t handle 5 pints and a car combined - and now everyone has to suffer, that I can find an argument in, as Dave puts people in danger, drinking more than 14 units a week only bring one self in “The Danger Zone” or are we having this debate because someone’s Debbie can handle her drinking - because Debbie gets loose once she had one to much?
Politics has no contact with common sense … it didn’t matter when the usual suspects weren’t sure what a woman is & it doesn’t matter now when, if, they are sure what a woman is.
Because politics is war. Conquest. Predator/prey. Parasite/host.
And those lines are where the “common” senses divide.
Oil & water emulsions are temporary illusions that are cocktail shaken, not stirred, again & again & again every time an illusion separates away back to reality & the drunks clamor for, too be wagged by, some more hair of the dog.
But running color commentary on pols & their pots of nonsense (& “citizens/subjects” collateral to be damaged) keeps people occupied & diverted & even gins up cash flow for some.
Booze. “Studies say.”
Studies say what the stud-fee payers want them to say: Inseminate that Trojan beast & fill my pockets with hollow abundance.
Remember Big Tobacco (& those supportive “studies”)?
And remember what RJR, etc, did after that same old whistle blew? Those bastards bought up Nabisco, etc, & brought much more better living thru chemistry to “processed foods.”
So say hello to Big Booze. Capone & the boys, that ilk, are legit, now, after consolidating even more “power” - stupidity - during the Volstead Act “deligitimacy.”
(Actors on stages. That/those Job/s is to transport audiences to manipulations … like Australia. Bread of hybridized & glyphosate-soaked wheat & PT Barnum circuses have, & never will cease to be addictively popular.)
Shout out to Big Pot, while we’re at it.
Big “Pharma” (Breaking Bad chemicals … not medicines) is the “business model.”
And the desire for covering permissions for vices & self-destructive - environmental destruction, too - behavior is the model the pushers spinal & syringe tap into.
Liberty? Cool. The coolest. Just so long as nobody else is on the dime for your behavior.
But when others are on the dime for your behavior, like day & night follow “each other” - other “stud-fee payers” are going to get into “your” subsidized business - because the coverage comes out of their pockets … & then, eventually, “what are we going to do with all these useless eaters” comes out of their mouths.
That’s the fundamental divisor that is conquering in “immigration” too. The 3rd world surging into “welfare” states.
Here’s an image:
Every time Evel Knievel missed a jump & broke every bone in his body every pair of eyeballs that tuned in to watch the spectacle of that daredevil’s self-destructive behavior was on the dime for his hospital bills … would mean that nobody would watch him do what he did.
No mulct in that model. So, spread the subsidization wider & skim, baby, skim.
Read that Iowa has 30 feet of top soil. That subsidized farming practices have caused, continue to cause, massive erosion gullies to form as that top soil - that lays all the golden eggs - gets washed away. The writer pointed out that most of the IA operations are “Big” (again) & that what those “farm” mostly is subsidies.
(Antoine Lavoisier. “18th century chemical revolution.” But he was also a tax farmer. Another big head lopped. But so what? Medusa snakes regenerate much faster than they can be mowed.)
Communists, communalists, collectivists, social con/tractors, hive minders, states/govs, The Matrix.
Humanimal’s fundamental attribute is dishonesty. Dishonesty, whatever the IQ it is attached to, is stupid.
And stupid is corrosive. Not progress-ive.
Too many are, & want to be, on the grift.
The world wants to be deceived, so Let It Be … “Mother Mary comes to me, speaking words of wisdom” … & tax expat Paul is now Sir … “say live & let die.”
The Lie. Walter Raleigh (tobacco angle). Just before the headless Trojan Horsemen - aka “heads of state’ of which he was a part // Game of Thrones from many hands high hollow horses - chopped his head off:
(“One of the judges at his trial later said: "The justice of England has never been so degraded and injured as by the condemnation of the honourable Sir Walter Raleigh.”” Bullshit. Ask the Irish, for one example.)
Or, and, if in your drunken stupidity you stab someone in the leg with a pitchfork & the consequences of your behavior are not subsidized away & you don’t survive your “choices” - problem remedied & solved to the extent it can be.
Zero tolerance per se is not a problem. At 3rd party subcontractor “representative” remove - with moral hazard sprinkles on top - is when ZT becomes the zombified trouble that it is.
(I don’t see dead people, but I do see zombies, everywhere.)
And that subcontracting is how names like MAHArishi Sunak & Barack Obama (but long lines of “appropriate” names, too) come to poke subsidizing eyeballs out in quests to Make America Healthy Again.
If thine right eye offends thee, & you patch it, as with grog … shock at the thou-pow! is on you … & that is coming.
Hell, it’s already been here for a long time. It is gathering momentum, accelerating.
But drunkenness & situational awareness is an alcomoron.
Or situational awareness is a “symptom” that leads to “self-medication” that leads to this treadmill tragicomic nowhere.
So the alcohol thing. The study sounds awful (I haven't looked at it), as many studies are. Any nutritional study is very hard to control for due to ethics and many are based of self reported info. The only other way is using lab rats which, as you can imagine is hard to parallel with humans exactly. Also many rat "population" studies are not in fact a population at all because they are so genetically identical they are less representative of a "population" than studying 2 identical twins (look up the issues with Black 6). Anyway, all this aside and just going on my gut and experience, I think drinking is probably bad. 1) The alcohol aisles looks very much like the sweets aisles do. 2) I think getting wrecked is normalised too much. 3) the knock on social impact of alcohol is generally bad. I forgot who said it but I remember someone saying, "think of a time when anything good happend from being drunk". The majority of happening are usually not so good 😅. Not for government control, their guidelines are usually trash anyway. But I personally think you're better off without it on many levels.
Dominic has this right. The choice is personal and everyone should be able to make it. If you are an alchie, deal with it and if you want to moderate your drinking or vary it, fine.
Another thought: Seeing the Scandinavian social system from the inside, it is now a race about who gets the tax revenue - If you call on the “social safety net” 2025 then you’re stealing salaries from public employment - a blob that can’t be decreased in size but is constant growing …and you must be shamed. Thus as everyone drinks “The System” can now shame anyone - as they did with the smokers.
Thanks Troels! Everywhere is falling apart ...
I got drunk a few times. I’m still here.
It depends on the person.
Me too. I think I'm still here. Though I might be a simulataion.
For better or worse, you are who you are.
Drinking: With the outlook to not drinking and driving - because Dave can’t handle 5 pints and a car combined - and now everyone has to suffer, that I can find an argument in, as Dave puts people in danger, drinking more than 14 units a week only bring one self in “The Danger Zone” or are we having this debate because someone’s Debbie can handle her drinking - because Debbie gets loose once she had one to much?
My understanding is we should've joined Shengen like the Swiss. We didn't as we needed to retain control of our borders!
Politics has no contact with common sense … it didn’t matter when the usual suspects weren’t sure what a woman is & it doesn’t matter now when, if, they are sure what a woman is.
Because politics is war. Conquest. Predator/prey. Parasite/host.
And those lines are where the “common” senses divide.
Oil & water emulsions are temporary illusions that are cocktail shaken, not stirred, again & again & again every time an illusion separates away back to reality & the drunks clamor for, too be wagged by, some more hair of the dog.
But running color commentary on pols & their pots of nonsense (& “citizens/subjects” collateral to be damaged) keeps people occupied & diverted & even gins up cash flow for some.
Booze. “Studies say.”
Studies say what the stud-fee payers want them to say: Inseminate that Trojan beast & fill my pockets with hollow abundance.
Remember Big Tobacco (& those supportive “studies”)?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MGOb29aePyc
And remember what RJR, etc, did after that same old whistle blew? Those bastards bought up Nabisco, etc, & brought much more better living thru chemistry to “processed foods.”
So say hello to Big Booze. Capone & the boys, that ilk, are legit, now, after consolidating even more “power” - stupidity - during the Volstead Act “deligitimacy.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S5hD6cN1cgs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e6x_yb1uX7o
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YvjQC2CSe8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NCIpAvBvXgw
(Actors on stages. That/those Job/s is to transport audiences to manipulations … like Australia. Bread of hybridized & glyphosate-soaked wheat & PT Barnum circuses have, & never will cease to be addictively popular.)
Shout out to Big Pot, while we’re at it.
Big “Pharma” (Breaking Bad chemicals … not medicines) is the “business model.”
And the desire for covering permissions for vices & self-destructive - environmental destruction, too - behavior is the model the pushers spinal & syringe tap into.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-ZcaKdvML8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rDm78oZ-Tdo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K43Yp3PErkI
Liberty? Cool. The coolest. Just so long as nobody else is on the dime for your behavior.
But when others are on the dime for your behavior, like day & night follow “each other” - other “stud-fee payers” are going to get into “your” subsidized business - because the coverage comes out of their pockets … & then, eventually, “what are we going to do with all these useless eaters” comes out of their mouths.
That’s the fundamental divisor that is conquering in “immigration” too. The 3rd world surging into “welfare” states.
Here’s an image:
Every time Evel Knievel missed a jump & broke every bone in his body every pair of eyeballs that tuned in to watch the spectacle of that daredevil’s self-destructive behavior was on the dime for his hospital bills … would mean that nobody would watch him do what he did.
No mulct in that model. So, spread the subsidization wider & skim, baby, skim.
Read that Iowa has 30 feet of top soil. That subsidized farming practices have caused, continue to cause, massive erosion gullies to form as that top soil - that lays all the golden eggs - gets washed away. The writer pointed out that most of the IA operations are “Big” (again) & that what those “farm” mostly is subsidies.
(Antoine Lavoisier. “18th century chemical revolution.” But he was also a tax farmer. Another big head lopped. But so what? Medusa snakes regenerate much faster than they can be mowed.)
Communists, communalists, collectivists, social con/tractors, hive minders, states/govs, The Matrix.
Humanimal’s fundamental attribute is dishonesty. Dishonesty, whatever the IQ it is attached to, is stupid.
And stupid is corrosive. Not progress-ive.
Too many are, & want to be, on the grift.
The world wants to be deceived, so Let It Be … “Mother Mary comes to me, speaking words of wisdom” … & tax expat Paul is now Sir … “say live & let die.”
Latin. Something that old gives the lie to “new.”
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mundus_vult_decipi,_ergo_decipiatur
The Lie. Walter Raleigh (tobacco angle). Just before the headless Trojan Horsemen - aka “heads of state’ of which he was a part // Game of Thrones from many hands high hollow horses - chopped his head off:
https://www.poetry.com/poem/35458/the-lie
(“One of the judges at his trial later said: "The justice of England has never been so degraded and injured as by the condemnation of the honourable Sir Walter Raleigh.”” Bullshit. Ask the Irish, for one example.)
Or, and, if in your drunken stupidity you stab someone in the leg with a pitchfork & the consequences of your behavior are not subsidized away & you don’t survive your “choices” - problem remedied & solved to the extent it can be.
Zero tolerance per se is not a problem. At 3rd party subcontractor “representative” remove - with moral hazard sprinkles on top - is when ZT becomes the zombified trouble that it is.
(I don’t see dead people, but I do see zombies, everywhere.)
And that subcontracting is how names like MAHArishi Sunak & Barack Obama (but long lines of “appropriate” names, too) come to poke subsidizing eyeballs out in quests to Make America Healthy Again.
If thine right eye offends thee, & you patch it, as with grog … shock at the thou-pow! is on you … & that is coming.
Hell, it’s already been here for a long time. It is gathering momentum, accelerating.
But drunkenness & situational awareness is an alcomoron.
Or situational awareness is a “symptom” that leads to “self-medication” that leads to this treadmill tragicomic nowhere.
So the alcohol thing. The study sounds awful (I haven't looked at it), as many studies are. Any nutritional study is very hard to control for due to ethics and many are based of self reported info. The only other way is using lab rats which, as you can imagine is hard to parallel with humans exactly. Also many rat "population" studies are not in fact a population at all because they are so genetically identical they are less representative of a "population" than studying 2 identical twins (look up the issues with Black 6). Anyway, all this aside and just going on my gut and experience, I think drinking is probably bad. 1) The alcohol aisles looks very much like the sweets aisles do. 2) I think getting wrecked is normalised too much. 3) the knock on social impact of alcohol is generally bad. I forgot who said it but I remember someone saying, "think of a time when anything good happend from being drunk". The majority of happening are usually not so good 😅. Not for government control, their guidelines are usually trash anyway. But I personally think you're better off without it on many levels.